@vitalikbuterin was a guest on the @greenpillnet podcast, delivering an in-depth year-end interview discussing public goods financing within the Ethereum ecosystem.
Thanks to @devanshmehta for co-hosting. We discussed how the public goods financing landscape is shifting from "feel-based" financing to verifiable, dependency-driven mechanisms, and why now is the best time to reform public goods financing using new tools such as programmable cryptography, AI-assisted evaluation, and deep financing models.
Vitalik shared his views on dependency, trust neutrality, open-source licensing, diversity, accountability, Ethereum localization, and priorities developers should consider in the coming year.
00:00 – Welcome to the Greenpill Podcast
01:50 – Vitalik Joins: Why Public Goods Funding Matters
02:19 – Why Public Goods Funding is Crucial for Decentralization
04:18 – The Spirit of Cryptocurrency: Censorship Resistance, Institutional Design, and Funding
06:42 – The Shift from “Atmosphere” Public Goods Funding to Verifiable Mechanisms
08:25 – Why 2026 is the Best Time to Reform Public Goods Funding
10:19 – Where Does Public Goods Funding Actually Come From?
12:45 – Open Source Licensing, Taxation, and Funding Dependencies
17:34 – “Funding Dependencies” as a Stable Mechanism
19:35 – Why Universal Quantum Finance Doesn’t Work in a Chaotic World
21:59 – Bottom-Up vs. Top-Down: Multi-Centered Public Goods Funds (PGFs)
25:29 – How to Establish Accountability in Public Goods
27:22 – Funding Open Source Projects is a Priority for Ethereum
29:31 – Privacy as a Public Good and Why It’s Upstream of the Public Goods Fund (PGF)
31:54 – The Real Perspective of Open Source Software Developers on Cryptocurrencies
33:52 – Combining Social Advocacy with Funding Support
35:56 – What Should Public Goods Fund (PGF) Builders Focus On in 2026?
38:13 – Focus on New Projects, Not Legacy Projects
39:44 – Ecosystem Cycles and “Sedimentation Layers”
41:39 – Yield-Based Financing (One-Eighth) and Fund Management Strategies
43:40 – Accountability: From Atmosphere to Rigorous Mechanisms
47:35 – Incentives, Feedback, and the Psychology of Public Goods
50:43 – Profit-Sharing Licensing and Sustainable Public Fund Pools
53:46 – Security, Issuance, and Public Goods
56:12 – Technological Democracy and Long-Term Risks
58:31 – The Relationship Between PGF and DIAC (Defense/Decentralized Accelerator)
01:00:05 – How to Solve the Free-Rider Problem Without Coercion
01:02:12 – Mechanisms and Coercion: Credible Neutrality
01:04:16 – Institutions, Power, and Capture Risk
01:06:16 – Individuals and Institutions in PGF
01:08:41 – Why PGF is more fault-tolerant than governance
01:11:01 – Diversity: Numerous funders